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fQuandered in the most improvi: nary that the French should have dent manner. What would the shown some haughtiness: they could intended subscription of sool. do not but remember the opprobrious to stop such food.gates? He with- terins used towards them by our ed to all what we now were fight- ministers, and it was probable they ing for? Was it Belgium? If lo- would resent it. He denied having lec the country, be asked if they recommended a change of governwould persevere in the war for such 'ment; he only desired the present an object. Was it for any territorial should be charged into a constitu• poffeffion? Had the French infult- tional fyftem, and he would con. ed us? If they had, he would be tend for this point, though he was one, and he was assured the nation well aware it had been the custom unanimously would unite in ob- for ministers to infinuate that those taining reparation.

who recommended it were Jacoa Lord Grenville again arose : he bins. He reprobated Jacobin prin. observed that of late minifters had ciples, because he was convinced declined sending troops to the con- they went to a community of goods, tinent: they had turned all their ac. and other absurd and pernicious tention to the navy and colonies; doctrines, even beyond the agrarian and though they had been so fuc- law. He did not believe there were cessful, fill they were blamed. The many of such principles in England, noble marquis had affirmed, that it and he knew of no such praftical was not a change of men but of Jacobins as his majesty's ministers ; meafures which was defirable: to they had banished gold and alver which he replied, that any change from London at the time they be+ in our government would throw gan to be plenty in Paris ; they had the couutry into iminediate confu. taken up the paper system at the fion. Had not ministers preserved time France had laid it down. it from French principles, and was Forced loans, military force, and this a small advantage? But why every Jacobin projeět had been was the war carried on? It v 2.; not adopted here, as France had reject. for this or that province; it was, ed them. The immortal jury of whether the French Mould.poffefs 1794 had sufficiently exposed the the whole of the maritime coast of falfliood of Jacobin pretended plots. the continent; another reason was, To the noble conduct of that jury the bar.ghty manner in which they he did not know how many of their bad rejected our overtures for lordships were now indebted for peace. No minister had ever been their lives and fortunes ; it was more ignominiously treated than that jury which defeated the Robesburs. Profeffions of unanimity bad pierrian system, attempted to be eoftep been heard in that house, if itablished in this country by the mithe country were to be insulted ; nifters. but they never were made good, The duke of Bedford professedly when tlie occasion occurred. His wished, he said, both for a change lordhip ended with condemning of ministers, of the system on which the language of despondence, and government had been conducted, vaunting the abundance of our re. and, he might say, for the restora Sources.

tion of the constitution. His grace The marquis of Lanfdowne an- quoted the papers on the table, to fwered, ibat it was not extraordia how the concealment ministers had



made of the public expences to principle by which their governor enable them to prosecute the war, had b: en guided; sometimes we He asked if the way to destroy were said to fight for one purpose, French principles, was to ruin the sometimes for another, and still we country? He did not think they were in the dark! The cause of the were to fascinating as to be dread. war in January 1794 was "ibe ed. The reason peace was not re. refloration of monarchy in France." ftored, truly was because it could That form of government appeared not be made but on teims disgrace. so necessary for the welfare and in. ful t. thole ministers who had held terests of this country, it was held such lofty language during the war. out as a fufficient reason for all Ilis grace then took a view of the the expences we might incur, and enorious taxes, and strenuoully the calamities likely to attend it. supported the motion.

This cause, however, did not long For it 16-Açainst it 86. remain : events of the moa melanMay 19th, alder man Combe rose choly nature rendered such ground to make his promised motion for no longer tenable ; it was found the dimilial of his majesty's mini- necessary to chuse a new one; and fters. He prefaced his speech with the most oftcnfible excuse and juftigreat cillidence, and with a deep fication of minifiers was, “inderconsciousness of inability under- nity for tbe past and security for the took the discusion of so important future.” This in its turn was given a fubject.

up, and then we were bound to It was, he said, the general opi- tight till France was settled into some nion of the people of this country, stable government, capable of prair. as well as that of his constituents, taining the relations of peace and anithat the calamities which preiled so ty.” After that event took place, hard upon the people were in a we were assured ministers would great measure, if not wholly, owing seize the earliest opportunity of neto the ministers having plunged us gotiating; and in December 17959 into the present war.

He would a fort of overture was made through not deny that at the commence the medium of Mr. Wickham, the ment it appeared to be popular, but success of which was 100 well it long liad ceased to be so, and no- known to render recapitulation nething had fo contributed to pro- cessary. Since that time the war duce this effect as the incapacity had continued with every posible of those who had carried it on. By degree of misfortune and difafter to ministers it had been declared to be lis and our alles. We now were .both just and neceffary; in both left indeed alone in the conteft, and these points be had always differed the diî relis of the country had is from them: but, even allowing that arrived at fiichi a pitch, as to render : it was f), it was reasonable to ex peace eflintial; it ren ained now only pect that the public fhould have to be confidered whether the present been for red of the real or ofter- minifters, who had so rallily preci. fible ground on which it had been pitated the country into the war, entered into ; and surely in a con and had nanifefted such incapactest between two great nations 10 ty in the conduct of it, were likely thing less could have been expected. to be more successful in obtaining In vain, borrever, had the people that defirable bletling, tranquillity: fougle for tone fixed and settled He was perteal, or opinion with

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his corftituents that they were not: obeying the instructions of his con: it required men of greater minds ftituents. He looked upon him. and more upright intentions to bring self as really an independent man, about this object. He would take up and had neither received nor foli: no more of the time of the houle cited any favour from ministers. iban by moving " that an address be With regard to the present admipresented to his majesty, beseech- nistration, he thought the country inz him to dismiss from his coull- owed every thing to them : the cils his present ministers, as the three greatest blellings which could most likely means of obtaining a be poileled, liberty, internal tranpermanent and speedy peace." quillity, and general prosperity !

Sir William Milner said, that in He first enuinerated the liberties--seconding this motion he followed that juries had been invested with the the opinion of his constituents, and, right which had been disputed, of though he despaired of its success, judging of all the circumftances of he was convinced, that if the sense the case, in point of law as well as of the people were to be taken upon fact: it was under the auspices of the the subject, the ministers would no present adminiftration, and against longer continue to heap distresses very high and powerful authority: upon the country.

that the continuance of an im. Mr. I. H. Browne opposed the peachment had been carried. It motion in a speech of confiderable was under the same administration length, in the course of which he that the bill fo obnoxious to the took a view of the whole conduct people of Canada had been reof administration for the last twelve pealed, and a system of freedom years, and declared he approved of established in its stead. Even the their measures. The gentlemen abuses of liberty had been touched who had spoken had both of them with a lenient hand, and the bill declared they thought themselves for preventing and punishing sedibound to follow the instructions of tion had been limited to the term of their constituents; and as the re- two years. presentatives of the two first cities Mr. Browne dwelt upon the in. in the kingdom, their opinions stances of what he called lenity, were certainly entitled to the high- and then proceeded to notice the est respect. He had, for his own second point, tranquillity, which, part, the honour to represent a very, he said, were so clear from the exa populous place; his constituents cellent measures which had been confisted of about two thousand; adopted, that it was unnecessary to in returning him their representa- go farther into the subject. He tive, they had enabled him to act then came to the third, the general for them to the best of his judga prosperity of the country. In the ment: If his constituents chose to year 1784 the present niinister inftruet him, he mould follow his came into oflice;' and from that own judginent if he differed from time to 1792 no country had ever them in opinion; and if they were flourished more: By means of his fié difpleased at this, they might reject nancial abilities he raised the funds, bim at the next general election. He which he found at 64, during the therefore diflented altogether from course of that period to 98. In the worthy alderman and the ho. the same proportion with the funds sourable baronet on the subject of the trade, manufactures, agricul



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ture, and ingenuity of the country to the instructions of their confti. kept pace in their increase there tuents but to obey them; they was indeed a period to which he ought to speak the sense of the must now allude that formed a pain- people, which could not be done ful reverse : those evils, however, but by faithfully representing it. which had caused it were entirely He conferred he bad never heard owing to the French revolution, any arguments wiich could conwhich had suddenly risen to a head, vince him that the prosperity of the and, like a torrent, burst every country was ai all owing to the natural and artificial bound, and present adminiftr: 'ion; the com. swept away all before it. It threat- mencement of the war undoubtedly ened destruction to every civilised belonged to them, nor did they neftate and regular government in gotiate for peace when 3 avoi rabie Europe. Much, he observed, had opportunity presented itself, by the been said on the possibility of avoid- French being driven back within ing the war, and great blame im- their territory; it was obvious that y puted to ministers for not doing so: might then have nıade better termis he denied its having been possible than at any other period, and their to avoid it, and attributed our pre- neglect was a sufficient proof of sent tranquillity to the wisdom of their intention to interfere with the ministers.", The French had the government of France; it srove demanded the most dreadful requi. ed that the war was, as it had been fitions from every power on the called, a war of kings against the continent; and the grand duke of people. Tuscany had been obliged to sell Mr. H. Browne had made the his jewels to raise the last 100,000 passing of the correspondence bill, crowns which they had levied on and the suspension of the habeas him. From these evils we had corpus act, grounds of defence for been saved by this administration, the ministers; it was rather extraand could we change it for any set ordinary that these violations of the of men more likely to be of more liberties of the people should serie service to our real interests ? No! ously be urged in defence of those He took then an average of the bills who had committed them. From of inclosures and canals, during four these two bills which had palled, years before the war and the same the country had experienced the period Since its commencement, most disastrous effects: the navy thewing that they had greatly in- had been disorganized, and disaffec creased in the latter. He concluded tion widely diffused, and, if the by giving his decided dissent to the present system remained, and was motion.

persevered in, these disconteuts Aldermen Curtis, Anderson, and would increase till at last they Lushington, Mr. Bootle, and Mr, would burst forth, and carry all beBrandling opposed the motion. fore them. He was not for such a

Mr. Curwen said it was cominon change as should only have for its for persons in the house to pretend objeět the putting one man into the that they were right in exercising place of another. The influence of their own judgment in opposition to government must cease-that influthat of their constituents: it was

ence by which the right honourable his opinion that members of parlia- gentleman had created about onement were not only bound to listen half of the present house of



The idealures which minifters had opposition had nothing to allure pursued in Ireland, had reduced them with, nor the minister to corthat country to a state of the great. rupt them by. For himself, he ett disorder. Nothing fort of the wanted neither place nor penfion; complete emancipation of the ca. there was but one thing which he cholics, and a thorough reform in ardently requested – it was the rethe representation of the people, storation of our excellent constitucould now prevent that kingdom tion. from being totally separated from Mr. William Adams thought this us. He did not believe the present was a time to oppose every motion ininifters could make peace for this which tended to diminish lawful country; and as the fituation of the authority or impede the operations nation depended upon that bleffing, of the executive power. All party, and upon its being speedily pro- all prejudice, thould be thrown cured, he felt it to be his duty to afide, and every description of inlupport the motion.

dividuals should unite to support Mr. M. A. Taylor argued strenu- the dignity of our national characoully for the dismillal of the king's ter. Unanimity was our best re. prefent ministers; the more he re. source, added to confidence in mi. fedted upon the dreadful waste of nisters. blood this war had occafioned (for Mr. Hobhouse rose: he begged to the waste of treasure was compara- advert to the subject which had tively an infignificant calamity), so often been discussed the neand of the opposition he had given ceflity of the war: it was of little it for these four years past, the more consequence, he said, which party was he fatisfied with liis own con- first had issued declarations; the duet. That the restoration of mon- question was, who had commenced archy in France was the object of hoftilities. He stated the following the war, was acknowledged in the facts as reasons for affirming that proteft of lord Fitzwilliam. But it we were the aggressors: the pro. had been asked, if you cannot trust bibition to export foreign corn to minifters, whom will you trust? France whilft it was permitted to perhaps it might be supposed that be sent to other countries; the he would answer, his friend Mr. palling the alien bill with a view Fox. This gentleman certainly had to exclude Frenchmen from our opposed all the acts of ministers by territories; the correspondence be. which fych misery had been heaped tween M. Chauvelio and lord upon the country of those mini. Grenville, the former of whom apfters whose incapacity was to no- peared as solicitous to preserve torious: and surely, in any Gtuati. peace, as the latter to disturb it ; on of life, we should not be in. and, finally, the disinifsion of M. clined to trust people who had led Chauvelin, which alone, in confe. u into difficulties and dangers in- quence of his official situation as stead of those who had always ambassador, was, according to the sought to extricate us. Gentlemen treaty existing between France and of rank, fortune, and high itation, us, to be confidered as a declarawere daily requesting his majesty to tion of war. These plain matters of dismiss his present ministers. Only fact were proofs that the cabinet of a sense of duty could make these St. James's was determined upon a gentleinen act as they did; for the war witų France, and that France


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