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give an vnlimited vote of credit to ber, 1995, 150,000l. was given ministers; perhaps we shall be told to colonel Crauford. He was cernext, that any account of the dif- tain that the right honourable genbursement of the army extraordi- tleman was abstractedly of opinion naries might thus be avoided; so it that any appropriation, such as he might. There was a time, how had made of that vote of credit, ever, when he would have called was unconstitutional, nor did Mr. fuch an exception paltry; a time Grey think that the last parliament, when he was an enthuGast in the servile and obsequious as it was, caufe of liberty; an economiit; could have intended, could have a reformer. In the year 1782 considered that vote of credit as this circumftance of extraordina. conveying unlimited power to niiries would have been reprobated as nisters. He asked, if there now an evil by the right bonourable were present any gentlemen who gentleman, which could not be too were members of that parliament, jealously watched; a principle that whether, if it had been stated to could not be too severely con- them ai the time the vote was demned; an infringement ever to passed, that two millions and a half be refifted. These avowedly were were to be given as a subsidy to the then his sentiments of that species emperor, at the discretion of his of ministerial chicanery, infomuch majetty's ministers, whether they that, immediately after he was made would have agreed to place such minifter, the house was called upon extraordinary power in the hands by a speech from the throne, to of the executive government? watch with jealoufy, and repet Many apprehensions had arisen with dignity, every fuch attempt from the danger of an invasion : he to dilapidate and infringe the con- ventured to affirm, that no invaftitution. The extraordinaries be- fion or atrack would gò more deing thus formally and folemnly cidedly to the destruction of all made the subject of a speech from that was valuable; namely, the lithe throne, it is not a litile remark. berty of the country. able that the minifter himself has Viewing the subject in this light, adopted the exception instead of the it was his duty to oppose, or, at principle; has frittered away the leaft, vote for Tuspending the fuplaws, and attempted, by a sort of plies. If he were asked, were those special pleading, to deprive us of supplies to be suspended which our liberties."

would afford to government so Mr. Grey then mentioned the act much weight and vegour? hé of parliament, whereby a certain would answer yes, and he was cer{um was given to his majesty for tain that we mould not negotiate the service of the year 1796. The less favourably if the French fai application of this sum was restrict. that the house was determined to ed to certain purposes: it was to be maintain its rights; the firmness applied in such a way as the exigen. with which they allerted their own' cies of affairs might require; but dignity would be a pledge of the it was meant prospectively, not re- fpirit with which they would resist trospectively. He could prove, he the enemy. Affuming that exalted faid, to the house, that the fum ftate on which a free people ought then granted had been used retro. to fand, they would negotiate more {pe&tively instead of prospective- advantageously with a free people; ly. On the 31st of Decem- a people that he hoped would re

main free ; a people whom the right Malmsbury met with from the dihonourable gentleman now con- rectory of France: and had that fidered as capable of maintaining transaâion been publicly known at peace and amity, who had now the time of its completion, it might Inorted away the undigefted fumes have injured our public credit. of the blood of their sovereign, and Gentlemen, he said, might rant with whom he had now conde. about the excellencies, the wounds, {cended to treat.

and the death of the constitution ; But the proposition did not go but it ought to be remembered, to negative the supplies; it was that those to whom they addressed intended to suspend them till the their medley effufions, were more wound given to the constitution sincere supporters of freedom than was made whole. He moved an they. amendment, that the second read. Mr. York contended, that the ing Nould be postponed till the asistance given to the emperor was next day, and he would then move out of a sum of money granted by the house to resolve that the mini a vote of credit to defray any exfter had been guilty of a high crime traordinary expences which might and misdemeanor.

accrue; and as those extraordinaMr. Wilberforce was averse to ries were not then voted, it was conpostponing the pasling of the reso- fequently a separate consideration, Jution, even till the morrow, on Yet the opposition side of the house the score of propriety and policy. had proposed a negative to the rest. The nature of the vote of credit, lutions of the committee of ways he said, had not been sufficiently and means, on the priociple that the commented upon; it would be money granted by the vote of credit found to convey an impression that in a former year was misapplied, ministers were authorised in em. and thereby to poftpone the supploying it in such a manner, or on plies necessary for the current year. fuch measures, as the state might Mr. Curwen declared, that the require. This construction was so safety of the British constitution literally obvious on the face of the was involved in the question then bill that it could not be contested. before the house. The commons

Upon this a question arose, whe- were always considered as the guarther the mode in which minifters dians of the public purse, and in that had applied the money was, or was view this queition was more impornot, necessary to the cause in which tant to them than if the threatened the nation was embarked.

invasion had been put in execution, He thought that the mode in and the French actually at our doors, which the money had been applied Supposing the assistance given to the was a propei one; the representa- emperor to have been instrumental 'tives of a generous nation would not in faving Germany, still the British

make the saving of the Germanic constitution was not to be destroyempire the subject of censure. At ed on that account; the minister the time the noney was remitted bad various opportunites of pleadthe emperor was on the verge ing some necessity to parliament of a great precipice, and all Eu- for informality in granting that afrope in danger of being ruined by sistance, or he might have applied his fall. To that seasonable supply for a bill of indemnity. might be attributed, in a confider The master of the rolls and lord able degree, the good reception lord Hawl. (bury defended the conduct of



administration in remitting the mo- formerly those sums of money key to the emperor, and contended, which had been expended, but not that an attempt to delay the sup- specified, commonly called extraplies for the year on that account ordinaries, were confined within was not defenfible upon rational some limits, as appeared from the grounds.

account entered in the journals Mr. Fox, in his reply, said, that during the war of the fucceffion, the real question was, whether the and even in the war which termi.conduct of the minister with re. nated in 1748. In what was comgard to this money sent to the em-monly called the German war, these peror, was, or was not, an infrac- funis first became very large; but tion of the constitution : if it was in the American war they exceeded an infraction of the constitution all bounds; these extraordinaries (which he thought no one could very often amounted to almost as deny), then it was an actual invasion much as the whole sums voted by and usurpation of the powers of parliament upon the estimates; nay, the representatives of the people, in the year 1782, they appear to in the moft important of all their have actually exceeded them. It privileges, that of granting money. was therefore incumbent upon the

At length the house divided on house of commons, not only to the question, that the word " to make this fupply as small as poffimorrow" be inserted, instead of ble, but, in a fubiequent senion, “ now.” Ayes 58 - Noes 164. to enquire into the particular exThe resolutions were then agreed penditure of this sum. Mr. For

concluded a speech of great length, The same subject was discussed by a motion to the following again in the house of commons on purport : “ That bis majesty's mi. the 14th of December, after Mr. nisters, having at different times, Long had brought up some papers without the consent, and during from the treasury, containing the the fitting of parliament, directed correspondence which passed be the illue of various fums of money tireen Mr. Long and Mr. Boyd, for the service of his imperial maconcerning the inoney advanced to jeity, and also for the fervice of the emperor; together with an ac the army under the prince of Concount of the interest paid by his dé, have acted contrary to their imperial majesty upon the loan of duty, and to the trust repored in four millions and a half.

them, and have thereby violated Mr. Fox, upon this occasion, re the constitutional privileges of this traced with some additional energy honse.” all the arguments which he bad en Mr. alderman Combe seconded forced on a former day, against the the motion, he faid, in obedience unconftitutional measure which the to the instructions of bis constiruminister had adopted of remitting ents, who had met that day in the money to the emperor without the common hall of the city of Lonknowledge or permislina of parlia- don, and bad defired their reprement. He supported his arguments fentativ!3 to cenfure the conduct by an appropriate quotation from of ministers, in granting away the Mr. Haisell's Precedents of Pro-. public money without the consent ceedings in the House of Com- of parliament. He also observed, mons, by which it appeared, that that the discounting of the biils


drawn for the purpose of remitting action as the preceding. In the money to the imperial troops, had years 1734 and 1735, votes of cre{wallowed up so much of the caih dit were granted, and applied acof the bank, as to compel that cording to the exigencies of the great body to narrow their dif- times. An advance to the duke of counts; and the British merchants Aremberg in 1742 was noticed in were made to suffer, that the Ger- debate, and censured in the admiman soldiers might be supplied. nistration of Mr. Pelham; but the

The chancellor of the exchequer enquiry was avoided by the presaid, that it was no small satisfaction vious question. Laftly, he appealed to him, that the full review of for- to his own administration in 1787, mer precedents, with respect to the when the expences incurred in promotion then before the house, form- tefling Holland were recognized ed the chief ground of the argu- under the head of secret services. ment, and that those precedents Mr. Bragge followed the minifter concurred in juttifying the measure in order, and in a great degree alfo at that moment fo feverely con- in argument, and concluded by demned. Respecting what had fallen propofing an amendment to the mofrom alderman Combe, he contend- tion, purporting " That advancing ed, that it was impossible for his con- the several sums of money in the acstituents to decide, in a just and can count then before the house, for did manner, on the propriety of giv- the service of his imperial majesty ing a vote on a motion with the par- (though not to be drawn into preceticulars of which they must have dent but upon occasions of special been unacquainted, and also igno- neceflity), was a justifiable exercise, rant of the defence which his majef- under the circumstances of the case, ty's minifters meant to set up. Mr. of the discretion vested in his majefPirt then went at considerable length ty's minifters by the vote of credit.” into a defence of the measure in Mr. alderman Lufhington dequestion, in which he followed the clared, that he Mould not have risen fame train of arguments as on the but for the meeting of his constitu8th of December; and concluded ents, alluded to by Mr. Combe; with quoting a number of prece. but he could never consent to redents both before and after the date ceive iufiructions to support a moof the revolution, on which he ap- tion for censuring ministers before peared to rest his principal defence. he had heard their defence. It had In 1701, he said, parliament had been said, that the constitution had voted an extra fum for the payment been violated; the papers on the of foreign forces, not regularly as table would prove the contrary. In a vote of credit, but subsequent to times of dificulty he thought the such a vote. In the reign of Anne, hands of government ought to be in 1704-5, both fubsidies and grants strengthened ; and, in this instance, had been employed in paying fo. he was first inclined to think a bili reign forces without the authority of inden nity would have been proof parliament. In 1706, he added, per, but he had since heard enough a transaction fimilar to that under to convince him that it was not discussion was publicly avowed. necessary. In 1718, an instance also occurred, Alderman Curtis and alderman which, however, he admitted was Anderson, the other city members, not fo analagous to the late tranf- coincided with the last speaker, and


supported the minister in contra- 47,00ol. This fum was granted, diction to the resolutions of their during the recess of parliament, to conftituents.

an ally of this country, placed in Mr. Sheridan, in a long and perilous circumstances, when his energetie speech, supported the mos capital of Turin was actually in tion for censuring the ministers, a state of liege. A demand was Mr. Bragge, he faid, the mover of made for 50,00ol. and the letter the amendment, appeared to have which Mr. fecretary Harley sent in formed a determination to turn answer to the ambasador of Savoy, every expreflion of cessure into a stated, that it was not pratiicable aca teftimony of approbation. His mo- cording to the custom of the constitution tion did not at all refer to the sums while parliament was not fatring, to sent abroad to the army of Condé ; if comply with the request; yet the it exempted that part of the measure presling circumstances of the cafeinwhich concerued the emperor from duced her majesty to grant a certain censure, it left the other to stand sum to be deducted out of the subsidy upon the journals with the brand that was to be paid to the duke of Sa. which was implied from its being voy. He contended, that from cirpassed over without notice, while cuinstances like there, when there the other was held up to approba- was a certainty that the money was tioa. He would not enter into the employed in a manner to which parenquiry, whether or not the power liament had consented, when it was of granting supplies, and controul. to be deducted from a fubfidy that ing their application, was as an- had regularly been granted, a precient as the government itself, and cedent could not be drawn to jufticoeval with the existence of the fy the measure then in discuilion. constitution. This salutary power in 1742, the engagement which arose from the abuses of govern- ministers had then contracted, took ment, from the misconduct of mi- place when parliament was not fitgisters, from tyranny, and from ting, though a fellion intervened becorruption. The reign of Charles fore it was communicated to the the second abounded with exam- house; but a motion was made, ples of this corruption; at the re- 'that it was dangerous, and the nevolution the right of the parliament ceflity of the circumftance was to grant supplies, and controul their stated in the resolution which the application, was folemnly recog. house adopted. He admitted the nized, and lince that period inter. neceffty of the measure, if it could woven with its usage. In this re. be, made out as the ground of the siew he wondered at the stress justification of ministers. The third which had been laid upon the pre- precedent adduced in defence was cedents which had been quoted : it equally inapplicable to the point. was arguing from the exception The assistance which min iters gave against the rule ; it was erecting the to Holland in 1787, was givea deviation into the guide. Here Mr. when parliament was not fitting. Sheridan contended, that even these This allistance, however, which precedents did not apply to the parliament afterwards approved of, present case. The firit which had was given from the fecret fervice the remoteft fimilarity to it, was money, which completely removed that is 1706, of the advance to the every enquiry and every argument duke of Savoy, to the amount of which the cafe might have frigeft

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